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August 16, 2022
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Usyk favored to beat Joshua again
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Sportbooks have unified heavyweight world champion Oleksander Usyk listed as a 2:1 favorite to successfully retain his WBA, IBF, and WBO titles against former champion Anthony Joshua in Saturday’s rematch in Saudi Arabia. The bout will air on DAZN in the U.S. market.
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If Joshua loses, he’s done. No longer a top 5 heavyweight.
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As long as he can draw a crowd he will be a top 5 heavyweight. Whether or not he is good enough to be in the top 5 is another story
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I agree, Joshua will need to work harder again to earn another crack at a title should he lose. However, knowing the politics and corrupt influences in the sport, he will get numerous chances to fight for some title out there all because of his name and stature. Boxing tends to recycle has-beens, wannabes, and crowd favorites all because of one thing: money.
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Scooby, you are so right. You get my vote to be the czar of boxing.
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Come on! Who other than Usyk starts as favourite vs Joshua? Fury retired so not him. No one else which means if he loses he remains easily a top 5 HW. If he wins he’s No1. If he losses (in a good effort) he remains box office. He will sell more tickets than any other HW. Fury an equal now but retired. How many people going to see Usyk vs Wilder? Or anyone else? Not 80000 that’s for sure.
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Yeah I don’t see this fight being different. The Ruiz KO turned Joshua into a boxer that relies on his jab and keeps his distance or holds in close but he really isn’t that great of a boxer. He’s better than most heavyweights but nowhere near Usyk’s class. So he is better off just going out there all guns blazing and let the chips fall
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I think we will see Joshua get desperate in the later rounds when he realizes he can’t touch Usyk laterally moving. Joshua should focus more on body building than boxing after this fight. 🙂
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I agree, Usyk will win by UD in my opinion. Usyk has laid the blueprint down in his own right how to create distance and pepper Joshua with lead punches racking up points. If Usyk KOs Joshua, I consider it a bonus in the fight. Why? Usyk is not a one-punch KO artist. Usyk is an accumulative puncher that sets up his offense to slowly break opponents down that may lead to a stoppage or KO. Joshua relies way too much on his athleticism instead of his boxing skills. Joshua is dangerous with right hand counters, but Usyk is fully aware of this from the first fight. Joshua’s heavier frame will be working overtime to keep with the busy body Usyk which supports one issue: fatigue. That being said, Usyk on an easy UD.
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For me AJ may have gone a bit gunshy after thr Ruiz loss. He got dropped heavily by Wlad but then roared back to drop/finish him. He was also hurt vs Whyte and same again. He never changed his style after those 2 defeats.
After the Ruiz first fight it was noticeable in both the rematch and the Pulev fight how safety first he was. He tried to do the same vs Usyk and came a cropper.
To win , he needs to back his old aggressive style but can he switch back?
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i was thinking about that Ruiz fight earlier. What was interesting about that is the fight as actually going ok until he knocked Ruiz down. His attacks were fairly controlled. It was only when he went in recklessly to finish it that he got tagged. But you are right, he has been more gun shy since. It’s like he has assessed his entire style as reckless, rather than just the attack after knocking Ruiz down. and he has lost something as a result
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If Joshua boxes negatively like he did against e.g. Parker, jab, hold, slow the fight down, steal rounds, he could win on points, especially if the judges are suspect. Parker though fought one dimensional and could not adjust where Usyk keeps on adjusting. If Joshua allows the first round of this fight to start as round 13 he is in trouble.
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that seemed to be his strategy in the first fight. I think ‘boxing’ is the last thing he wants to do against Usyk
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I want AJ to win because i think it will be awesome for the division, especially if he really blasts Usyk out. But, i think those odds are actually worth a bet on Usyk.
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Betting on favorites rarely a good idea-laying 2-1 odds takes a chunk out of your bankroll that is difficult to make up if you lose. I have done pretty well taking live underdogs-you can lose more than you win and still make a profit. Does Joshua have a better chance than those odds against him? Still thinking about that.
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Losing to Usyk again won’t be the end of Joshua’s boxing career, he will remain a big draw regardless. Just imagine this scenario: Assuming Usyk wins again, which fight will be more profitable, Joyce, Dubois, Fury, Wilder, any of them versus Usyk or Joshua?
Usyk is great for boxing history, promoters prefer who is great for business and Joshua is, almost the same as Canelo, De La Hoya and Mayweather.
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joshua needs to make a big statement early. its his only chance. he cant go rounds with usyk.
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Anyone know what time this will be televised?
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Imagine a prime Mike Tyson facing one of these guys. Current Heavyweight boxing is mediocre at best. The first fight was a bore.
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Ij AJ loses this fight his career is definitely done and over with. He’s made a ton of money so if he loses at least he can retire comfortably. This is what happened when promoters protect a good fighter for years trying to set up a super fight or 2 instead of him lose to an unknown when he lost to Liz the first time.
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Joshua becomes a stepping stone after this loss
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Usyk either wins a decision, or he KO’s joshua if Joshua gets reckless trying to press him. Usyk is just too skilled. Should be entertaining tho.
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You can’t teach an old dog a new trick.
Joshua does not have the killer instinct win at all costs and accepts defeat. But looking at it from another perspective remember fury vs wilder 1. How fury fought him and how he changed since than
My prediction. Is that usyk will win by TKO and Joshua will stress during the fight tiring him out.
Guessing right around rd 7-8
Joshua will not stay composed which will suck his oxygen out of him.
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Go Usyk go !
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If Joshua loses, he’s done. No longer a top 5 heavyweight.
As long as he can draw a crowd he will be a top 5 heavyweight. Whether or not he is good enough to be in the top 5 is another story
I agree, Joshua will need to work harder again to earn another crack at a title should he lose. However, knowing the politics and corrupt influences in the sport, he will get numerous chances to fight for some title out there all because of his name and stature. Boxing tends to recycle has-beens, wannabes, and crowd favorites all because of one thing: money.
Scooby, you are so right. You get my vote to be the czar of boxing.
Come on! Who other than Usyk starts as favourite vs Joshua? Fury retired so not him. No one else which means if he loses he remains easily a top 5 HW. If he wins he’s No1. If he losses (in a good effort) he remains box office. He will sell more tickets than any other HW. Fury an equal now but retired. How many people going to see Usyk vs Wilder? Or anyone else? Not 80000 that’s for sure.
Yeah I don’t see this fight being different. The Ruiz KO turned Joshua into a boxer that relies on his jab and keeps his distance or holds in close but he really isn’t that great of a boxer. He’s better than most heavyweights but nowhere near Usyk’s class. So he is better off just going out there all guns blazing and let the chips fall
I think we will see Joshua get desperate in the later rounds when he realizes he can’t touch Usyk laterally moving. Joshua should focus more on body building than boxing after this fight. 🙂
I agree, Usyk will win by UD in my opinion. Usyk has laid the blueprint down in his own right how to create distance and pepper Joshua with lead punches racking up points. If Usyk KOs Joshua, I consider it a bonus in the fight. Why? Usyk is not a one-punch KO artist. Usyk is an accumulative puncher that sets up his offense to slowly break opponents down that may lead to a stoppage or KO. Joshua relies way too much on his athleticism instead of his boxing skills. Joshua is dangerous with right hand counters, but Usyk is fully aware of this from the first fight. Joshua’s heavier frame will be working overtime to keep with the busy body Usyk which supports one issue: fatigue. That being said, Usyk on an easy UD.
For me AJ may have gone a bit gunshy after thr Ruiz loss. He got dropped heavily by Wlad but then roared back to drop/finish him. He was also hurt vs Whyte and same again. He never changed his style after those 2 defeats.
After the Ruiz first fight it was noticeable in both the rematch and the Pulev fight how safety first he was. He tried to do the same vs Usyk and came a cropper.
To win , he needs to back his old aggressive style but can he switch back?
i was thinking about that Ruiz fight earlier. What was interesting about that is the fight as actually going ok until he knocked Ruiz down. His attacks were fairly controlled. It was only when he went in recklessly to finish it that he got tagged. But you are right, he has been more gun shy since. It’s like he has assessed his entire style as reckless, rather than just the attack after knocking Ruiz down. and he has lost something as a result
If Joshua boxes negatively like he did against e.g. Parker, jab, hold, slow the fight down, steal rounds, he could win on points, especially if the judges are suspect. Parker though fought one dimensional and could not adjust where Usyk keeps on adjusting. If Joshua allows the first round of this fight to start as round 13 he is in trouble.
that seemed to be his strategy in the first fight. I think ‘boxing’ is the last thing he wants to do against Usyk
I want AJ to win because i think it will be awesome for the division, especially if he really blasts Usyk out. But, i think those odds are actually worth a bet on Usyk.
Betting on favorites rarely a good idea-laying 2-1 odds takes a chunk out of your bankroll that is difficult to make up if you lose. I have done pretty well taking live underdogs-you can lose more than you win and still make a profit. Does Joshua have a better chance than those odds against him? Still thinking about that.
Losing to Usyk again won’t be the end of Joshua’s boxing career, he will remain a big draw regardless. Just imagine this scenario: Assuming Usyk wins again, which fight will be more profitable, Joyce, Dubois, Fury, Wilder, any of them versus Usyk or Joshua?
Usyk is great for boxing history, promoters prefer who is great for business and Joshua is, almost the same as Canelo, De La Hoya and Mayweather.
joshua needs to make a big statement early. its his only chance. he cant go rounds with usyk.
Anyone know what time this will be televised?
Imagine a prime Mike Tyson facing one of these guys. Current Heavyweight boxing is mediocre at best. The first fight was a bore.
Ij AJ loses this fight his career is definitely done and over with. He’s made a ton of money so if he loses at least he can retire comfortably. This is what happened when promoters protect a good fighter for years trying to set up a super fight or 2 instead of him lose to an unknown when he lost to Liz the first time.
Joshua becomes a stepping stone after this loss
Usyk either wins a decision, or he KO’s joshua if Joshua gets reckless trying to press him. Usyk is just too skilled. Should be entertaining tho.
You can’t teach an old dog a new trick.
Joshua does not have the killer instinct win at all costs and accepts defeat. But looking at it from another perspective remember fury vs wilder 1. How fury fought him and how he changed since than
My prediction. Is that usyk will win by TKO and Joshua will stress during the fight tiring him out.
Guessing right around rd 7-8
Joshua will not stay composed which will suck his oxygen out of him.
Go Usyk go !