“Ryan has put out multiple statements denying knowingly using any banned substances — and we believe him. We are working with his team to determine how this finding came to be and will address this further once we conclude that process.” – Golden Boy
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Just use the Canelo excuse. You ate tainted meat. It has allowed Canelo to walk away without penalty several times.
It came to be because he cheated. No matter what happens here on out, he will be known as a cheater. Period.
Yes, you are correct. Social media has already branded him a PED user no matter the scenario. Yet even though he beat Haney, the cloud of victory will always be tainted by the use of PEDs.
If he did cheat and proven he cheated, legacy might be tarnished…
What “legacy”? Garcia wins one big fight while cheating more ways than one….he’s a cheater and a quitter. I would say he’s another Victor Ortiz in the making however he’s probably gonna be worse than Ortiz
This “knowingly” language was purposely used here to suggest the basis for their defense. The rationale here is that if Garcia didn’t know that he was taking PEDs, he should suffer no penalty. It’s such a sketchy way to escape blame. I think they’re all liars. Garcia is a liar. De La Hoya is a liar. They desperately needed Garcia to win this fight by any means. The fact is, they all SHOULD HAVE KNOWN whether or not their fighter was clean, given the risks involved in this sport. Garcia himself SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and I suspect did know. This is why he bet 12M on himself to win and come in overweight. Garcia, De La Hoya are crooked.
Sounds like we have the judge, jury and executioner already. Does the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” mean anything to you?
Since when did “innocent until proven guilty” actually work in the states? When?
“Since when did “innocent until proven guilty” actually work in the states? When?”
– Whenever I go to traffic court…..
You would have been the judge and jury if Haney was found doped.
No, just realistic that if he had a positive test, he too would be branded a cheater.
Only Garcia is responsible for what is in his body. Can’t blame the promotion. How the hell would they know? You think the they provided it? Come on now.
“This “knowingly” language was purposely used here to suggest the basis for their defense.”
– Whether knowingly or unknowingly, it doesn’t make a difference.
– He is still responsible for what eventually goes into his system.
– I agree with you, LexusNexus.
– Take care.
– Gary G.
Amen
i don’t think de la hoya knew if the drugs was intentional or not. only ryan and his team knows. they knew what he was taking and if it was unintentional like a tainted supplement or not, they knew. i am not saying it was intentional but it looks bad when he comes in overweight and didn’t even want to try to lose it.
These substances does not help you to win a fight but is not correct neither because they both should fight in the same/equal circumstances
But you know anything can happen with crazy Ryan
unfortunately , as seen recently with other fighters that have tested positive for peds , nothing happens, no consequences, and the wbc and boxing commissions will come to their “rescue” if they make money for them ……
ryan learned these cheating behaviors from the canelo team and the trump team. j/k, 😉
You just had to go there, eh Padilla?
Carlos Pedilla, time to refill your TDS medication. It seems like your dosage needs to be increased also. Get on that. We’re all rooting for you!
This definitely put a spot on Ryan’s victory.
Why they waited this long to announce his doping?
A ‘no contest’ is a strong likelihood at the moment.
Detective “golden boy” on the case. I’m sure they’re eager to get to the bottom of this so that truth can prevail.
The substance that was found (ostarine) is common in some nutritional products and does nothing to improve the performance of an athlete, like stamina, strength etc. Ostarina helps a bit to create or grow muscles, but is banned mostly for the bodybuilders
“Ostarine is a selective androgen receptor modulator that attaches to proteins in the body and effectively tells muscles to grow. It is used to aid performance by helping athletes build muscle mass and enhance their rate of fat loss and also to increase stamina and recovery ability.”
Yes, spot on with the medical definition.
– I just Googled it, Scoob.
– I’m a Mechanical Engineer, not in the medical field.
– Take care.
– Gary G.
My understanding is that it does not matter whether you ‘knowingly used’ PEDs or not. A pro sportsman has the responsibility to monitor what he ingests. Here is a man who was knowingly using alcohol and marijuana before the fight so maybe we should not be surprised.
Hey Carlos P, I didn’t know Pres. Trump took steroids?
funny. he takes them for his hair .
Well, apparently it works. He has a championship coif!
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The New York State Athletic Commission lost a major lawsuit versus Joey Gamache when he fought Arturo Gatti. The theme of injustices were that Mr. Gatti came in over the contracted day of the fight weight. In addition to the operation of the scandalous Day-before Weigh-in procedure.
In short, Gamache triumphed because he was concussed via significant weight disadvantage.
The aftermath saw said Commission did not protect Gamache, penalize nor prevented Team Gatti during the procedures. This is near or exact with Garcia v. Haney. Only Garcia now has tested positive for banned substances. Gatti did not test positive. Garcia v. Haney should be ruled No-Decision. In addition to Team Garcia being sued alongside NYSAC, by Team Haney.
I remember that fight. Gamache nearly got killed!
2 brutal left hooks had Gamache out on his feet, rocking on his heels, eyes rolled up, followed up with a monster right hand…as I recall
2 brutal left hooks had Gamache out on his feet, rocking on his heels, eyes rolled up, followed up with a monster right hand…as I recall
I suspected this much, he knew, that was the reason for his crazy behavior leading up to the match, watch for the Cartel, WBC, to jump and defend him like they did for every cheating Mexican fighter. He was carrying on just like Miller, and seemed huge, it was pretty obvious something was not right with him, Dela cross is a horrible excuse for a human.
If Ryan had taken androestenediol then things would be different for a bad
Why do people care that much?
Haney could have weighed in at 141 to see where Ryan would be. When he saw 143.2, he could have said forget losing 1 more lb and forget the WBC belt.
If Haney rematches Garcia,
It would be at welterweight.
This story is just going to help bring Haney back out of retirement.
I don’t care about a 147 lbs Haney or a 135 or 140 lbs Shakur. But these guys wanted to run off the belief they are the future faces of boxing and top 10 lb for lb. Now that Garcia best Haney, and Haney thought he was too 8 or too 5 lb for lb, with this drug cheat scandal, they want to run off the idea that Garcia can’t be lb for lb until he rematches Haney at 140.
That is crap. Ryan Garcia is at least #10 as pound for pound, and a welterweight. Haney wants to believe there is a drug cheat scandal (and whatever he tested positive for had less to do with it than Devin being drained and Garcia coming in 3 lbs over).
Garcia will beat Haney at a 143, 145, or 146 lbs catchweight.
Garcia should fight Josh Taylor (or Haney should).
And I am not saying that Ryan Garcia beats Ennis or Crawford.
Ennis should be close with Ryan Garcia in on for lb ratings now. Tank should be top 8 pound for pound.
Haney is retired?
– Was about to ask the same question about Haney being retired.
By the way, where is bread boy, pan? Aren’t you the one telling us how great Garcia is? Your boy is a cheater, don’t hear you saying a thing? Loser.
Ostarine is a type of drug called a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM). It’s not approved by the FDA, but is sometimes found in supplements.
Damn street tacos!
Could be a terrible week for Oscar. I’m not sure it is a good thing to get Canelo fired up.
Fight should be recorded a “no contest” and not counted in the record books. Results of failed drug tests described in detail. One year suspension for Garcia . Garcia must agree to random drug tests during suspension.
What a load of old pony.. so Vada is testing folks positive for no reason then .. well frigg us all. While he is entertaining and wild .. there is some real BS amongst the stuff he does . All the fake boxing fans hatred of young Haney, a fella with 8 defences but not popular .. . So a social media supa dupa …fast hard hitting star . TikTok giant fan fave who cheats also. But hey let’s wait for more tests results .. what a joke !
I’m not at all excusing the issue here, but I think if most people were aware of just how many professional athletes at one time or another used performance enhancing drugs or drugs that later on were blacklisted and considered PEDs, The record books for every professional athletic outfit would be checkered with asterisks. What gets really tricky is that there were athletes using substances that were not considered illegal in the 70s, 80s, and 90s but today are considered illegal PEDs. However, no one is asking to have the record books changed for them. There are actually several other layers to this issue that do not unpack so easily. Once again, I’m not excusing it, but people ought to be aware enough to know that it’s a much more complicated situation than it might appear on the surface.
Most professional sports don’t involve punching others in the head. A baseball player using steroids is not going to increase the risk of serious injury or death to the other participants.
Breaking News, Diddy DNA found in Ryan, Haney very upset.
Ryan Garcia is a cheat -The fight is a ‘NO CONTEST’
You don’t use PED on the day of the fight and expect them to have any viability or use. I hate to say it, but this does look a little fishy. He doesn’t test positive at all in the lead up to the fight, but on the day of the fight, he decides to take GED that won’t even make it through his system in time to have any sort of effect? Doesn’t really make sense honestly. I’m not defending Ryan. I’m saying the science doesn’t back it up.
How come hardly anybody said anything about Holyfield and Morrison until after the end of there careers?
ok everybody that jumped on that cheater bandwagon now what? he was cleared there was obviously a conspiracy to alter the outcome but at the end of the day Superhype was clear and Haney gonna take his medicine and L like a man hahahahaha