Miscellaneous quotes…
Tyson Fury: “Deontay Wilder, I want you next, bum!”
Andy Ruiz Jr: “After that performance, there’s no way he beats me with a hand tied behind his back!”
Promoter Frank Warren: “Tyson’s been in camp for nearly a year now. He needs to take a real rest with his family.”
John Fury (Tyson’s Dad): “That wasn’t Tyson, he was as weak as a kitten from the first round…if he keeps hold of that team, they’re gonna cost him his career. I’ll say it live on TV. The team what’s around him now, Ben Davison, whatever he’s got there in charge of the business needs to have a look in the mirror and say ‘not good enough at a high level.’”
Ben Davison (Tyson’s trainer): “He has a tough fight which he clearly won after being cut terribly. Not only one, but two cuts. Sometimes you can’t win.”
Let’s face reality, folks. True boxing fans, longtime boxing fans, true students of this sport are APPALLED by the hype and presence of Tyson Fury. He’s absolutely pathetic. He’s extremely tall, which helps him get away with being the most nonathletic-looking fighter in recent memory, arm-punching and not knowing how to box without looking like a giraffe, and generally a very mediocre boxer. He struggles to beat other mediocre fighters, and just like the mediocre Wilder, he hypes himself by talking trash, beating low-caliber fighters, and pretending to be more than he is. This is what the lowly state of the heavyweight division allows. It really is quite pathetic. When will a real heavyweight emerge to end this heavyweight drought? What’s happening now is hard to tolerate.
@ Lexus: if you “can’t tolerate what’s happening now” why don’t you just spend your time with something you enjoy?
There are a lot of inaccuracies in your comment though:
First, Fury is by far not the most non-athletic boxer in recent history. I can name you at least 25 boxers from the past and present who are by far more non-athletic looking.
But who cares about the body type of a boxer as long as he knows how to win a fight? Do you really want to see more Jeff Laceys who were ripped but were huge disappointments in the ring?
Fury struggles against “mediocre fighters”? He neither struggled against Klitschko, nor against Wilder. He has no loss on his record and he fought more or less the same quality of opposition as all the other top tier fighters.
Its a fact that the fight against Wallin – who is not a mediocre fighter either – was his first rough test because he had to fight with two heavy cuts over his eye. In other words, for most of the fight, he could only see with one eye. If you were in that position, you would probably break down and get out of the ring as fast as you could. That’s if you’d ever dare to get into a ring in the first place.
Fury doesn’t know how to box? As acknowledged by the same all time boxing greats you claim to be missing, he moves extremely well, especially considering his size + he won most of his fights relatively effortlessly. I don’t know whether you ever heard of Mike Tyson, but he thinks that Fury has an “incredible jaw” and is a legit top HW of our times. (Mike also thinks that Loma is the p4p best at the moment).
I could go on and on dissecting your poor arguments, but I don’t think you are looking for answers. You just want to let the world know that the HW division and Fury stink. So…just watch something else until your “HW messiah” will appear and you can be happy again.
The current HW division is neither the best nor the worst in its history. The sport of boxing has changed, with incomparably more driven players in the game than in the past. That’s why the era of long-time reigning champs is a matter of the past. There’s more money involved in one year of today’s boxing than in ten years of yesteryear’s boxing. That’s the time we live in, whether we like it or not. It’s still an interesting HW division for me, and I still see plenty of impressive HW boxers out there who work their asses off to survive in the game and make a name for themselves.
Stonefree : Kudos ‘n Props for a very well written and ACCURATE rebuttal . I’ll work Your corner … ANYTIME !
Thanks, James!
I think most people who post comments here would want you in their corner :))
Speak for yourself. A lot more well-informed people would disagree. ‘Real’ fans shouldn’t rate him. Blah blah blah, emotion, giraffe, emotion.
Come on man, the heavyweights have never been very good in comparison to the middle and lower weights. Last generation wasn’t any better than this generation of heavyweights. You have to go back 20 years or more to get good heavyweight fighters. I still think Usyk can come up and whoop the lot. The Ukrainian has so much more talent and skill than anybody in the division, so size doesn’t always mean everything. He just might be your Huckleberry.
Tyson Fury has talent. The cut may haunt his career. I’d keep a glove away from his face for several months. Fury does not have one shot power so he’ll defeat B and A grade fighters in the same fashion.
Decent point about the power. If an opponent is willing to take a few, he will make it difficult for Fury. Wallin was like Klitschko but with nothing to lose. Throw in the cut and you had chaos.
Fury in all honor, But it would be decent if boxing fans gave Otto Wallin cred for how he conducted the match, the Boxing World saw Wallin as a tomato can … when reality showed a class boxer. Otto will show even more in the future Be sure!
@ Tommy: you must not have been reading global boxing fan comments after the fight: almost ever single person watching the fight gave credit to Wallin. He did very well, now he has to continue to improve to get into the top 15.
Dad was spot on !
Fury and Ruiz will look like out of shape grown men fighting, when in reality they’re top 5 fighters.
Dad dont realize that his son was damaged bad in that 12th against Wilder. He will never be the same. At this point, Tyson proved himself a tough contender. He hung in tough against adversity. But not the elite of the division. And yes, Otto was robbed of an obvious TKO victory. Fight should have been stopped on cuts. This fight prob took up all the fight Tyson had left in him.
Between this fight and the Wilder fight, Fury is done! He will continue to make some money, but will never be champ again. He should take his earnings and ride off into the sunset while he still has a head. Wilder is salivating at the mouth after this fight.
Ahhhhhh, just thinking……..what if instead of this carefully selected cherry picking of Wallin, have been any of these guys: Pulev, Povetkin, Kownacki or Joyce? Or instead of Fury rematch, Wallin has the good idea to test different waters and sign to fight Wilder, assuming that Ortiz, for whatever reason, pulls out?
I believe I know the answers, but isn’t important
Yeah, I think these are very legitimate questions. Personally, I am not sure what exactly caused things to not go according to plan for Fury in this fight. Maybe Wallin is A LOT better than we all thought, or Fury just didn’t have a great day. I expected Fury to perform at the top of his game, but something went wrong somewhere and Wallin boxed with brain. Still a good win for Fury, especially considering that he had to box for so many rounds with one eye shut.
I don’t think Kownacki or Joyce could have done much, but experienced people like Pulev or Povetkin are a different story. Last not least, every fighter has some stylistic match ups that are tough for him.
Stone, seems that Fury is a heavy beer drinker. He admitted and his trainer confirmed how much he had the night before the Wilder fight, very important event. Now, being in USA, what he does before these meaningless fights? We shouldn’t forget he still a young man and the results of his behavior was shown on this fight I guess.
Good points in all your posts stonefree.
To focus in on wallin,
Wallin believed in himself and was tough, has a very good skill set to build upon and is not afraid to bend the rules. All the makings of a champion just mabye he was stil a bit green in experience to face fury at this point. I hope to see him again against someone like a chisora or Chris arreoll for starters and then go from there.
What get me more than this hype job is ESPN and Top Rank with this lineal title crap. Max and the crew hype him like he Ali or something. So annoying