Bernard Hopkins: No Punches Pulled, Part 1

Bhop Part 1
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In this 4-part interview with Fightnews.com®, ring legend Bernard Hopkins pulls no punches as he prepares to embark on the biggest fight of his career outside the ring.

By Jeff Zimmerman

The legendary Bernard Hopkins is about to pick a fight with one of the heavyweights of boxing outside the ring and he’s not holding back.

Hopkins is no longer going to sit idly quiet. This is nothing new for him as fighting is in his blood and keeping quiet is not his forte.

And it started long before his amazing 28-year pro career where he won world titles at middleweight and light heavyweight that finally culminated as a first ballot Hall of Famer this past June in Canastota, NY.

He first laced up gloves at 9 as he had uncles that boxed, including Art McCloud, a decent middleweight and light heavyweight.

By 13, however, Hopkins was drawn to the tumultuous streets of Philadelphia and turned to crime, amassing 9 felonies by the age of 17. He started mugging people for their watches, and jackets and then transitioned to hard cash.

“I was mugging those with money – strong armed robbery it was called,” Hopkins told Fightnews.com®. “I was preying on big drug dealers for example.”

He eventually landed at Grateford Penitentiary where he served almost 5 years of a 15-year sentence. In his second year behind bars, Hopkins rediscovered boxing to let out some frustration that essentially saved his life. He became an amateur champion and highly respected by fellow inmates.

“Reputation is everything and your name is everything in that environment,” Hopkins told Fightnews.com in an interview earlier this year about his life in prison.

And although Hopkin’s legacy and reputation in boxing is secure and is now part of Golden Boy Promotions led by Oscar De La Hoya, he is ready to go toe-to-toe with one of the biggest names running the sport and let everyone know how he feels.

In this 4-part interview with Fightnews.com® just a few days after Golden Boy’s prized welterweight contender Vergil Ortiz Jr. scored a ninth-round knockout in his comeback fight in Fort Worth, Texas, Hopkins pulled no punches and is ready to embark on the biggest fight of his career outside the ring.

“It’s time to start exposing, some will like it, some are not going to like it,” Hopkins said. “I’m ready for that. One thing about me, you can dish it out, you should be able to take it too. So, it’s another fight now, mine is over in that ring, but it ain’t over outside of it. I’m going to be pulling the covers off and again I don’t give the fighters a pass now that they have been put on notice.”

Hopkins squarely pointed the finger at Al Haymon, who serves as “advisor” to many of the sport’s biggest stars including unified welterweight champ Errol Spence Jr and heads up the Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) banner.

“All these guys are hiding under advisors, consultants,” Hopkins said. “They are not even calling themselves managers, but they are doing all this stuff from their house, their attic or their basement or their office or whatever they call their office. It’s time to bring these people to the table. I am not afraid of any of them.

“I spoke when I was active, and I am going to speak now. I want to start from the top, who they are represented by. Let’s start with Al Haymon first, I’ll say names. We have to start with Al Haymon, the wizard behind the plan. And it has always been. Some call him a ghost that lives amongst us. But I know who we are dealing with. And I know basically their strategy. It’s the same behavior in the music business. Nothing has changed for years, except birthdays and time.”

Hopkins then took a jab at the fighters and does not give them a pass either.

“It’s not to say you can’t become profitable with that regime, PBC,” Hopkins continued. “So, the fighter is going to have to do an important thing, that I believe most came into this business for, to be great, but first to be a champion. Now if they came in for anything else, then they should listen to those who’s going to continue to do what they do way after they retire. Look at history. Look at the fighters they had before they came into the picture, whether it was through the amateurs or through the Olympics. I’m not saying the man doesn’t have the skill and experience, it’s their career, it’s the fighter’s career to be able to decide for themselves.”

Hopkins took it one step further on how he views Al Haymon and the fighters he represents.

“Jeff, let me tell you, when I sit back and watch from a landscape view and I see that there are fighters hiding, my impression is like a person that is wanted by every law enforcement agency that exists and their hiding behind those safety nets like a fugitive,” Hopkins explained. “And they are only waiting for Al Haymon to turn them in and say he’s due business. Those fighters that believe everything they hear are fools.

“They are fools and ignorant at the same time. The fool part comes in at they are not watching what is happening and listening and putting common sense to everything that comes by their ear, or the person that is close to them who is 9 out of 10 controlled by the masses. They have to take accountability.”

Hopkins is lending his Hall of Fame voice from the inside that will no doubt cause an uproar and in one swoop, he is putting the whole sport on notice.

“There is no more victim in this situation. The victim is someone that jacks your stuff without you knowing it. We are hearing back and forth not only through the boxing world but fans and non-fans to put an end to it, whether it is writers, announcers, or anyone else. This is nothing new, this has been going on for decades. But one thing about those other eras, the best fought the best. I’m not just talking about Vergil and people in our camp, under our promotion. I’m talking about everybody.”

Hopkins knows the business side of boxing all too well as he went to battle against promoters Don King and Lou DiBella in his fighting days.

“This is a call out from a Hall of Famer who did it all,” Hopkins stated. “This is your career. When it is all said and done, you can’t turn back the clock and undo wrong, because you put your whole life and faith into it. Even if 90% of that was positive and the business part where you’re normally not involved in, 90% are not involved, they are told, they are not asking, they are the receiver. I know this for a fact and facts.

“It’s time to call these dudes out. It’s time to call these “want to fight pretenders,” but don’t want to fight now. Negotiations are negotiations. Two firms get together like lawyers do. We have put out many phone calls to the other side. Now for some reason and there might be some truth in it, but not the whole truth, the only way we are going to survive is if we get these fights for that individual or this individual, that’s nonsense.

“Don’t you know boxing survived the Depression and other ailments that comes and plagues on history on corporate and athletics, business. This is really for the fighters that are going to read this. But I know who is going to tell them not to read it, don’t pay attention to it. Once they start asking questions, I challenge all of them to take the B-Hop questionnaire, test and present it to their advisor, consultant, manager, whatever. And I guarantee they will get a song and dance from them.”

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Part 2 of this exclusive interview with Hall of Famer Bernard Hopkins will be published tomorrow.

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  • I think it’s totally safe to say corruption and politics run rampant in the sport of boxing even if Hopkins is not being interviewed. I admire Hopkins for his stepping up and discussing such controversial subjects.

  • I’m quite sure Hopkins won’t expose the stench that comes from his own hole aka Golden Boy Promotions.

  • B cant say too much. I knew him since ’92. When you the readers didnt care or know about him, I used to make the drive to 27th and Huntingdon (Champs Gym) to spend time with him and watch over him. B never had a fan there, no media. Myself, Ike the janitor and sometimes little Mikey Stewart would be there. B’s Xwife used to arrange times when B would be at Champs and let me know. it was usually around 1pm. This would be late 90s early 2000s. His x would ask me to bring friends in support. I’d dig up friends whom could go for the ride. My friends would say, “you oh me for this. Who are we going to see again!” B loved to have an audience. We had great times there. I could tell stories of his mouth piece (that he defended the title 9 times with) was missing. He made me wait outside with the North Phila corner drug dealers that day. Told them all to keep ok on this guy til I come back out. If i wasnt paying attention to him as he worked out in the ring, he’d let me know. He needed eyes on him and always had to talk about himself. I could tell stories that wouldnt fit with society’s likings, but I wont. I was smart enough to have B sign and date a baseball for me. 1st one he ever signed. Ok, I had him sign 2. Yrs later I would acquire a twice worn fight worn outfit of his. B got big headed after the Tito fight. By the Golden Boy fight, B was talking of himself in the 3rd person. Over the last 15 yrs I didnt see much of B. He made his new ‘friends’ in boxing world, often forgetting about many whom were there long before. I had my own successes in other areas so was never too hurt by it. Yrs later B would let me tag along after fight to a presser and dinner . Think that was after the Cloud fight. B probably shouldnt go digging. Im loyal to the day I die and only shared stories that are fit for on here. I can share this, B alwasy told me back then, if as far as it ever goes is that Im champ and 25 yrs later I live on a corner row home here in Philly and people drive by and just recognize me for what I accomplished in boxing, thats enough for me. This was months before the Tito fight. B also had me go up to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in June of 2001. B knows I love the sport. He also knew Tito and his father and Don King would be there. B was smart enough to know 23 yr old me would just their ballz all week. Of course he was right and I filmed it and brought the tape back to Champs and B loved it. I had a fun time back in the day with B. More so the 90s thru 2002ish, then it dropped off. Few times Ive seen him and we chatted. To B, Im ‘blahblah from up the Blvd!’ Some of us were really there long before the media etc came! Many say I should write a book with all the stories I have from 40ish yrs around boxing and fighters etc. Still sponsoring fighters to do my part with the sport. Have a museum as well but their not gonan let me plug that on here. God Bless!

    • Tom, you mentioned all this took place back in 1992. Wow, I was in college at the time busting my brain and had no time for learning about boxing. I only watched the sport on TV since the 1970’s. Once college was over and I landed a job, I embarked on building a small gym and bringing everyone I could I find in a town of 40,000 people together and we gradually developed a small network of amateur fighters. Currently, many amateur fighters still box in the same gym and I charge nobody to participate. I have built onto the building over the last 15 years and improved seating and equipment storage. I am in my 50’s now and coach some fighters on the side when I take a break from the crazy medical world.

      • Scooby – do you remember the first fight you saw on TV? Mine was Patterson vs Chuvalo.

    • I feel you bro. U was loyal and got nothing and he has it all and didn’t even throw u a small bone bro after u gave it 100 for him. Than he gonna expose others lol I feel you bro.

  • Respects to Hopkins, but I would prefer a forum presided by fighters that went on their own and fought for they out, like Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Mikey Garcia, Canelo Alvarez and also we can include Teddy Atlas.Many corrupt things could be exposed and this could be a step forward to eliminate the blood sucker sanctioning bodies.

    • Wont ever change. Ive seen the back end of the business. Aided many fighters over the years. Its rigged as in, they may only ever give you your shot, when your not ready and on hard times. I had a buddy who was on a 4 yr layoff, came back and had 1 tune up fight. Next fight he fought a guy that beat pacman not too long ago. But my buddy wasnt ready for a #1 contender fight. They told him, take the fight or we’ll nvr call again. All thosr yrs of hard work, to be forced to take a fight he wasnt ready for. Sink or swim they told him. He made it about 8 rounds with the guy that layer beat pacman. Had my buddy had about 3 more fights, he’d a been back in boxing and ready for that #1 guy. I could go on forever. Often i predict ahead of time whats gonna happen. Lateef kayode yrs ago moved up to heavyweight to fight unknown luis ortiz at the time. I had to tell lateef they were hanging him out to dry and to usr him yo build ortiz up. Shame. He had no clue. I ring walked him in vegas for that fight. That was th3 ens of his career. Downward from there. They use these guys like pawns. It used to hurt me inside for yrs, but i learned early. Took me yrs to accept it. In the entertainment world, your value today, isnt what it may be tomorrow.

      • Tom, appreciate the response. I agree, the boxing world is structured with the fighters not first on the list. It’s all about the investors and entertainment sectors that manipulate the outcomes so one thing can be made: money. Much of those folks have never fought in a ring, but they do know how to handle money and make more of it. Have a great day today.

      • This is part of being a full-time professional fighter. You are to be ready to fight. These stories been around for decades and fighters should know the call can come at anytime and your manager should have the confidence you been in the gym and in fighting shape. When you’re a champion or have a big name that sells tickets then you can assume no surprise fights and have a full camp.
        As an open-class amateur fighter, you need to be ready for a guy with just 10 fights or 300 fights and 2x national titles.
        Your either preparing as top level fighter or your not. The amateurs’ teach you this. Everybody has an excuse or injury to explain a loss.
        Deciding to continue after a 4-year layoff says he was ready to get back in action. This is a tough sport with not much hand-holding.

        • missing the point. my buddy stopped boxing for 4 yrs because his dad died and he had siblings still in high school. He took off from boxing for a few yrs. He came back. He had 1 tune up fight which was a 10 rounder. He got the call to fight the #1 contender. Clearly said, no go. Only had 1 fight back in 4 yrs. Need 2-3 more fights and will be ready. Their response, your chance is now. Take it. if not, even later, when you are ready, we wont need you then! period. There’s a behind close doors side of boxing, that I speak of. I know promoters have managers sell their fighters out late in their careers too and tell the managers, hey your fighter will be gone one day due to age anyway, so you have to preserve yourself and be in with me, the promoter, because you and I will be around longer than our fighters will be.

  • Until all of the blood and money-sucking sanctioning bodies are eliminated, boxing has no long term future. Isn’t it obvious? Can you imagine any other industry letting self-appointed 3rd World groups directing their businesses?

  • Hopkins is basically stated a lot that we already know about the business. I was waiting for some blockbuster type of information that did not materialize? Maybe in the next part. With that being said, Hopkins better not forget who he works for…..GBP! Same company that handed Manny PAC a case full of cash in an effort to get him to leave Top Rank. Remember that while fiasco?! Oscar is also as slimy as they come, so is BHOP going to expose his partner as well or just the competition??!!

    • I mean… and i wont mention company names, but fighters sometimes get paid some on the books and a lot off the books later, cash. Untaxed cash later, sounds good to many.

  • 20 years since Hopkins ran his mouth about DiBella. Let’s see if he learned anything.

  • One of those instances when someone talks a lot but isn’t really saying anything of consequence.

  • Hypocrite. Who cares about these other promoters/ managers? Just worry about your own stable. Why is Ryan Garcia under Golden Boy still taking these light-in-the-ass fights? He calls out everyone and fights absolutely no one. Is that everyone else’s fault or can the finger be pointed at Golden Boy? He is now at 140. Will he be fighting Lopez or some of the big names? I agree with Hopkins but its not as if Golden Boy is without fault.

  • So he robbed drug dealers? Yeah right, he was a Robin Hood on the block. Every person hopefully matures but hard to forgive Bernard for saying he would never lose to a white fighter and the lecture he gave Kelly Pavlik after handing his first loss, I would have t then and to fuck off then and there.

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