With former champ Deontay Wilder officially exercising his right to an immediate third fight with WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, online sportsbooks have quickly offered odds for the fight proposed for July 18 in Las Vegas.
Tyson Fury -260 (5/13)
Deontay Wilder +220 (5/11)
Over/Under 9½ Rounds
First to be Knocked Down
Tyson Fury EVEN (1/1)
Deontay Wilder -140 (5/7)
First to Bleed
Tyson Fury -140 (5/7)
Deontay Wilder EVEN (1/1)
Odds courtesy of BetOnline.ag
Those are good odds for Fury. I have seen Fury as 3-1 to 7-2 favourite.
2-1 sounds about right for Fury. He’s clearly the better overall fighter, but there’s always a chance of Wilder nailing him. I think the early ear injury had something to do with the fight playing out the way it did. Reminded me of Gatti-Ward 2 when Ward suffered an ear injury in round 2, and looked unsteady the rest of the way. I still think Fury will win the third fight, but I’d be reluctant to bet on it.
Wilder should have 2 fight scheduled with lower opposition to work on his defense and work on a plan B or C !
I wouldn’t expect any major changes in Wilder, tune-up fights or not. He’s 34 years old, and 44 fights into his career. It pretty much is what it is at this point.
He doesn’t have a plan b or c that’s his problem
I can’t see Wilder beating Tyson Fury especially the one that beat him in the rematch. Even in the first fight Tyson won by points in my opinion and came back strong after the 12th round knockdown. The rematch was a one sided beating. Wilder wanting the immediate rematch is pride and pride only because any manager/trainer would say after that beating that his fighter should take 1 or 2 fights before the trilogy. Tyson Fury with an earlier stoppage in the trilogy.
2-1 is a fucking joke. 2,000-1 is more like it.
This match should not be allowed to be signed. Deontay is unfit to fight Fury. He does not have the skills, and his weak puzzle has been solved.
I thought Wilder was your boy?
Really, we would not expect anything positive in Wilder’s favor based on the last performance, right? Here is a big variable to consider throwing Wilder out of the equation. No, I am not taking any sides in this post. LOL… Fury has had a history of spotty performances even when the opponents were rather mediocre. On the other hand, Fury has great performances when he applies himself under the right trainer such as Steward (like in second fight against Wilder). Can Fury keep himself mentally intact and stay focused enough to stay on top of the game when we have seen him struggle with past person issues (ie, drugs, martial issues, depression, etc.)? His own father would like for him to retire and said himself he has nothing left to prove. No, I am not trying to sound like a skeptic, but this is a legit variable to examine.
Scoobs: very good point.. idk man, im with ya.. idk who i got either. Wilder cld surprise us. I think more than anything, Fury not only took his belt, but also his pride and manhooh haha. We may see a more vicious Wilder this time around. Or maybe not! Maybe the same result.he got exposed, if he loses again, he is definitely going to the bottom of the barrel. Im game to to see another fight. Cld be amusing
Tony, I am with ya on seeing a third fight. Why not? First, both parties agreed to a third fight with a legal contract if the loser desires to do so. Both fighters can make money! Wilder knows this is a “do or die” situation, so he may bring a new level of preparation and team of trainers! Who knows what the future holds! This is boxing and boxing is about business!
Wilder has a death wish ,and he will go out on his shield , but , he will go the way he would have liked to have gone .
I’d probably line up for a flogging for a few million dollars too.
Barring a punchers chance, that’s all he’s doing.
I wish Deontay would NOT have taken this rematch right away…He could get seriously hurt and never be the same again…His corner will be much more reluctant to throw the towel in, hopefully the ref will stop it when Wilder is standing in another corner taking a beating in about round 6 or 7…
Too soon for the odds. It was a one sided beating, right, no argue before the obvious, but what about Wilder changing his entirety team and having a trainer like Freddie Roach or some one on that level like R. Garcia, Hunter, Shield or Atlas? Or, what about Fury being overwhelmed by his demons and returning to be the same after Klitschko?
Sometimes I have the feeling Fury will reject a third fight with Wilder and might choose a home fight against Joshua, (assuming he will defeat Pulev) leaving all the belts behind him, because the fight of Fury vs. Joshua is a worth thing to see, not some bogus belts on dispute.
IDK,but I think it’s a little to soon for wilder to fight this guy again,if he really gets boxing lessons or ko’s fury early, I guess we’ll see
This fight will pretty much end Wilders career and all talk of Wilder as an all-time great. In any other era, Wilder would have been another Frank Bruno or Alex Stewart-a knock out artist with limited skill… I love Joseph Parker’s team calling Wilder “selfish” for taking the rematch! Selfish??? Hello, this is boxing! When was the last time he walked away from a $10 million payday so someone else can have a shot? I, for one, would rather see Wilder get his ass kicked again, than see Fury win a pedestrian 12 round decision against Parker.
If that’s selfish, what the heck was Joshua?
Wow, cruel world isn’t it.
2 weeks ago Wilder was all that, now he sucks really?
Bottom line Wilder was exposed, his legs were never right that parts a fact, regardless he would have lost.
This is not even close to the mid-match of Tyson/Lewis that was a joke!
At any rate, Wilder will be better this time out )I get it he couldn’t of fought any worse) if you watch all of Wilders fights he rarely fought going backwards and was never pressured like this.
Still a good fight
Darrel: Interesting angle. I, well everyone, must be wondering this same thought re Wilder’s legs in this last fight. Is this just where he is now, older, legs are gone.
He looked weird from the start
Fair odds. The only fear I have for Fury is he could be over confident. He’d need to train like he was facing the best version of Wilder again and not expect the version that he gave a beatdown to.
I could see Fury cutting corners and in that respect DW could be more dangerous than an AJ match. AJ would be like a new challenge to him whereas DW (going over old ground) could lead to staleness.
Having said that , it’s hard to see how Wilder can change and isn’t mentally scarred. With AJ (after he lost to Ruiz) he had the knowledge that he had beaten similar/better class opposition and he was not so set in his ways. Also with the Ruiz loss it was really just the shot on the dome which changed the fight and AJ himself had Ruiz down just moments earlier. With Wilder he had no foothold in that fight.
Wilder would probably need to almost go into kamikaze mode to stand a chance – esp if Fury comes out aggressively again
Wilder is broken as a fighter when it comes to Fury. He Will be timid and gun shy. We dont have to wait to see that.. Wilder began doing it immediately when fury landed on him in the second fight. Wilder has been hyped as the baddest ever and bought 100% into it… But when someone else didn’t buy it.. He was completely taken apart. Wilder can’t fight going backwards and he has no real boxing talent in his mid 30s and 40+ fights. He wont change and this last fight I think psychologically damaged him. Fury took his soul in a way. Wilder is not on the level of Fury and certainly isnt ready to get right back in with Fury(I dont think he will ever be ready for that). If the 3rd fight does happen ans Wilder is beaten down again I fully believe it will be the end for Wilder(unless he retires before that or fights on small non-televised cards after that). Wilder is for sure damaged psychologically(not from injuries so much but mentally from believing a myth of people hyping how great and unbeatable he was and then beimg completely battered and exposed). I’ve saw people say Wilder wasnt right going into the fight… I disagree. I think he started fine, once fury began coming forward and wilder caught punches by a guy that didnt fear him at all and made him back up and fight off his back foot … He was in unknown water. Add that to very limited talent and very likely overhyped power(as the media had to create a .ca$h cow)and the myth has been debunked. Wilder didnt have the skill to begin with and now he is psychologically demolished. There is no way he ever beats Fury… And Will likely never hold a major belt again.
Wilder in a way makes me think of GGG. Both unbeaten, dominate their opponents (in their own ways), then draws in a fight, then loses, then is not the same again. Both have tough fights, are tough, get hit but don’t go down, getting towards the 35 year age, then it all gets too much and they are finished. Boxing is a tough tough sport.
I believe though Wilder has a better chance at getting back because with small improvements, (IF he is prepared to work at these improvements), it will make a big difference.
You might be right about the improvements (that is what I think he should change his entirely team) but in order to observe them, I believe he might need to have at least 2 tune up fights, then he can go with Fury, with a bit more of confidence too.
Mike, I agree with your logic and that’s what the majority of fighters would do after a bad loss. However, everybody has their own endeavors and coping skills knowing their personal abilities that the outsiders may not know about. Joshua did not take a tune-up and beat Ruiz in the rematch. All the critics, analysts, experts, keyboard warriors (including myself), and other fighters felt Joshua needed to take a tune-up before the rematch with Ruiz. Well, he proved us all wrong. Yes, I think you make a great statement, but only Wilder knows what he needs to do and he lives with the consequences.
Nah Sccooby, Wilder doesn’t know what he needs, jus what he wants. He is at this moment like the gambler that is taking a beating and even though every body knows he needs to step out of the table before ending completely broke, he wants one more try.
Mike, great points but truth be told im with scoobs on this one. i dont think he shld dump his trainer. Loyalty my dude…. BUT i do agree he shld go elsewhere AS WELL. What i mean is keep his trainer that got him there but as a “co trainer” and move over to mayweathers camp. Floyd offered his assistance, why not take him up on it. Plus floyd has a good stable of fighters to push him in sparring. If his trainer has a problem with it, then he shld dump him. There shld be no ego’s or pride to battle here IF he wants that belt and credibility back.
Agree. Wish Wilder had rather gone this route.
I think the Wilder camp thinks if they have enough fights, Wilder at some point would be ‘lucky’ and land one almighty punch….and the probability is that he would at some point. Fury probably wins 9 out of 10 fights with this in mind for me.
But, and this is my problem with all of this, and It’s just an opinion…what happens if Wilder does win (I’m not saying he will). I’m a Fury supporter and he has been amazing in the two respective fights so far, but what if Wilder can improve a little more (I did say little) and say Fury is less motivated for this which brings on this variable result. Another fight as it’s one each with a drawer??
Where does it stop?
Personally, I think Wilder will do a little better, say he knocks Fury down on the way…but for me it’s Fury by late stoppage or on points and to finally put all of this to rest. Assuming Joshua beats Pulev, the ‘big one’ at the end of the year.
Fingers crossed with all of this and remember, it’s just another opinion and another variable
Wilder has been sussed out by fury with other h/ws keeping track as wilder has limited boxing skills ans from now on whoever-wilder fights his opposition wil know how to beat him……I would really like Ruiz to give wilder a hammering as well as Joseph Parker would kick wilders dung funnel
I hope I win this bet. I just don’t know who.
Third fight will be like the first fight. No knockdowns.