By Hesiquio Balderas
“I don’t think I lost the fight,” Canelo Alvarez stated in response to questions from Mexican media right after the fight. “I lost a few rounds, but I didn’t lose the fight. I felt good to be honest, maybe a little tired over the last few rounds but that’s because of the weight.”
“I’m looking for the difficult fights, I want to make history.”
“He won four or five rounds, not more than that.”
Please, he lost all but one round. This man is so used to cheating with illegal steroids and gift decisions that he can’t accept the loss. He lost this fight by a large margin. Those judges who scored it 115 – 113 are absolute lunatics who should never be near a ring again.
deluded commentary you know nothing about fighting yes canelo lost but not by much
Bivol was only partially effective its closer than you are capable of unerstanding
You sound like a dingbat, literally no one has Canelo having the fight close. Other than these deluded Mexican fans who don’t know any better
Speaking a of which where the hell are they. They were crawling all over the damn site like roaches and now they’re nowhere to be round. Valdez got his ass beat and now Canelo. Humble pie hahaha
Really no need for that!!!
The irony of your comment haha.
It was a close fight Bivol 11 >Canelo 1
Closer or further, either way, he lost.
You might want to reevaluate your own knowledge before denigrating someone else That fight, if you know how to judge a fight, was not close.
I’ve actually completed Association of Boxing Commissions Judges training. Most of the time, the TV judging is bad and biases audiences into erroneously thinking the judges messed up. HOWEVER, this is one of those occurrences where the judges were totally biased.
Not only did Bivol basically double his punches landed, but Canelo was outlanded in EVERY SINGLE ROUND. In power punches, Bivol outlanded Canelo in 9/12 with 3 being even. In other words, Canelo did not have one single round where he outlanded Bivol in any of the three punch categories (jabs, power punches, total punches). Whatever Compubox’s flaws are, that simply does not happen in a close fight.
Not to mention, every single judge gave him the first four rounds. They were looking to give him any round they could. The reality is Bivol blocked almost everything Canelo threw.
If you really thought the fight was close you’re either biased or really don’t know how to score a fight That is a fact.
Bivol’s defense was exceptional. You could tell Canelo was frustrated in the last half of the fight as he could not figure out how to break Bivol’s defense. I give kudos to both men for making this fight happen. One flaw Canelo has is he will leave himself open when he generates full power on the right or left hooks. Canelo will get flat-footed with the hooks, and it leaves himself open for counters. His granite chin makes up for this flaw, but I still think this habit could be broke with improved training.
I wish Bivol would have stepped up his jab with more power instead of pawing it at times. Canelo would have been battered even more on the outside had Bivol snapped the jab more. Bivol did a great job boxing on the outside and his defense was excellent.
Scoob, canelo leaves his hand out there after a power punch and Bivol took fool advantage of that
Good point Whetto.
sir in all due respect i think usually your post are spot on but this time maybe not i think Canelo was purposely targeting the left bicep of Bivols to stop the jab i think it showed because Bivol admitted to it now the biased DAZN commentators kept saying Canelo was missing and he was NOT i believe his game plan was to wear down the bigger Russian the thing Canelo did not account for is the energy he was going to use by doing so which is why i thought why he showed so much fatigue in the late rounds which ultimately lost him the fight Canelo easily won in ring generalship then would back up trying to lure Bivol in for counters Bivol IMO did not show a great defense or offsense what he showed was his ability to absorb the punishment of the Canelo onslaught then used flurry of combination punches to score points in no point of the fight did either fighter hurt the other it was great fight just Bivol to big and too strong for Canelo
I think Canelo was targeting the biceps and forearms to weakened Bivols guard not due to being frustrated. He could not get his shots on target because of Bivols defense so he tried to weaken it. Bivol was just too strong and the natural fighter at that weight for Canelo to make a difference or change the pace in the fight. Canelo is a great fighter but his dream at chasing so called legacy moving up in weight to challenge himself was his flaw. Canelo was over confident and his ego broke him. He should have never moved up in weight. He lost his speed and got tired out early carrying that extra weight. He did not look like the same fighter as we all seen at Middleweight/Super Middleweight by a long shot. He looked too slow and tired to make a difference. Bivol after the fight was funny as hell. Interviewer – Did Canelo hurt you at any time during the fight, Bivol – Yes my arms, here i can’t hold my belt any longer lmfao
if only the bicep/shoulder punches would count. there is no shame on going up to challenge bigger and stronger fighters. kudos to canelo for been one of the few that do that. I also agree with you about the DAZN commentators not seeing what canelo was doing.
You’re crazy. Canelos showed how battered he was. If hitting his arms was the game plan then he is a dummy.
Thank you for the input.
Who are the biased DAZN commentators? Chris Mannix was scoring the fight comfortably for Bivol. Mora was complimentary of Bivol’s jab. The blow-by-blow announcer was correctly pointing out when Bivol win exchanges and blocked Canelo’s shots. Unless you think they were biased against Canelo?
Cuz you’re a pro boxer right ?? If you know his flaws so well then get in the fucking ring and box
John, you have eyes, right? You can’t see the some of the flaws develop? Flaws are seen through observations. Boxing in the ring proves what? Nothing… Simply stating observations… No different than jury seeing evidence and drawing their own conclusions.
So glad for Bivol Canelo making excuses for his loss Bivol was the better man and a good boxer.
Canelo lost badly. I agree with you a100%. He lost at least nine rounds and I’m being generous. The judges are horrible. We know now , canelo won’t ever fight Benavidez now. He got the crap beat out of him. Thank you BIVOL. Payday
MBG, it’s a different fight with Benavidez. Benavidez fights with his hands down. It would be up to canelo to take advantage of that.
Benavidez cant make the weight its just that simple and he needs to step up to 175 beat Beterbiev or Bivol that would lure Canelo to fight him his style matches up better for Canelo
Nah, Benavidez and Canelo now. You just want Benavidez to wear himself out fighting the other guys.
You’re right, I agree but BENAVIDEZ is way more agressive than Bivol. Canelo will get hit more by Benavidez than anyone else in his career, believe that.
You are 100% right. That was my concern that the judges would rob Bivol if the fight went the distance, the judges got it right but barely.
if you thought these judges were bad then you would have really been pissed watching the scoring from the Serrano vs Taylor robbery but anyway lots of haters going to come out of the closest now
Haters?? No. More like people who are coherent and rational. If I didn’t know any better I’d think Joe Biden was scoring the fights last night because only a dilapidated moron could score it so close. Biviol worked Canelo, it’s that simple. You can. Punch the arms all you want intentionally to wear a guy down, unfortunately they aren’t scoring shots. Neither are wide lunging hooks that miss by a mile. Face it, Canelo was beat CLEARLY by the better man and from here on out all the little “historians” will have to remember it that way.
Right
Hey, I told you guys Canelo wasn’t going to fight Bivol in the rematch. He’s now saying 168 so he can face an old washed up GGG or John Ryder from England, a bum. Fight bums or Europeans who have no resistance. Benavidez is there at 168, canelo diehards. I don’t want to hear, he’s nothing. If Benavidez is nothing, call for the fight. Benavidez won’t move, he will stand toe to toe and chop canelo up . I repeat, Canelo will get hit more in that fight, versus any other fight in his career. Benavidez vs Canelo, Benavidez by stoppage
MBG
You’re deluded, you dont know s… about Boxing. You’re saying Triple GGG is washed up, hes the current world middleweight champion and would beat that bum Benavidez everyday of the week and Canelo would wipe the floor with him.
If Triple G and Bivol the Europeans are bums with no punch resistance, then where does leave your hyped up Benavidez?
Who has Benavidez fought or beaten? I bet even John Ryder beats his arse.
Paul, you must be a Canelo sycophant. I can understand your delusional thinking. It’s hard to accept when a man who fight c-level opposition and looks good doing. Benavidez fought contenders, pretenders and all bums they put before him. Benavidez will knockout, Plant, TKO Charlo between rd 8-10 and purely dominate slow footed Canelo, who will stand right in front of him. Drop the
MBG
From your biased comment, I can also understand your delusional thinking. Name me all the so called top fighters Benavidez has beaten?. Bet you cant.
Canelo has beaten all the top fighters of the Super Middle weight and Middleweight division with belts. Saunders, Plant, Smith, a young Triple G and moved up to challenge for the light heavyweight championship, yes he lost, but least he tried. Charlo is a joke, don’t even consider to be anything, another hype job.
Come back to me when Benavidez has the balls to face any of these guys rather than just projecting his future.
There’s no way Canelo won the first 4 rounds. At the most Canelo won 2 rounds. The fight was 118-112 maybe 117-113. Bivol won very comfortably.
As much as I respect you Canelo it’s unfortunate you’re acting like a sore loser because you lost by at least 9 rounds easily.
True story. He is still a role model and he needs to act like one. Hes gonna lose fans by being a sore loser.
“Still a role model”? No he’s not. He lost fair and square and he’s acting like a cry baby.
Canelo bit off more than he could chew. Now he’s complaining.
Role model?
LOL, LMFAO!
To who?
Calculating, hypocritical, whining, corrupt, arrogant cheaters?
Why respect a cheating POS looser?
Sorry Cheatelo, you got your ass beat!
Exactly and he had no answers. He didn’t get better post-Floyd fight he just selected the right opponents. His obvious weakness is his stamina and he doesn’t do well against master boxers. Oscar in his prime or Pernell Whitaker would have made him look stupid. Canelo is overrated.
Your right on point. This is what I’ve been saying all along. He was selecting champions with belts but not Elite status boxers and he thought this was going to be easy payday. And I think he lost a A status boxer and that not Elite. Any A or Elite boxers that have great movement and a great jab will always beat Canelo
Look the guy gets respect of me because he took on a bigger guy and lost, every fighter will say they won when it was close. However this does nothing to Canelo’s credibility. Andrade in 2!
“Every fighter will say they won when it was close” yet there was NOTHING close about this fight!
He doesn’t get “respect” because he choose to move up in weight and now he’s whining and is using weight as an excuse as to why he lost. He’s also delusional knowing full well he got his ass handed to him.
Funny thing is, before the fight, he was already talking about moving up to heavy weight after beating Bivol. He’s totally delusional.
He was looking past his opponent. He was talking Errol Spence and now HW hahaha. One could say Canelo became a “mark” for himself and actually believed his own hype. NOBODY CAN STOP THANOS CANELO lol.
Bottom line , CANELO did not lose any of his champion belts and did not gain one . As far a REMATCH , forget about it . It wil bel the same results . BIVOL is a natural light heavyweight and the champion of that weight .
It wasn’t close though. Canelo didn’t have a single round where he outlanded Bivol in any punch category (that’s right not even one round in jabs, power punches, or total punches). He was thoroughly dominated.
Not sure what fight u were watching but ca elo was igger. He was shorter but looked a lot thicker and heavier than bivol
Then containminated meat speaks for itself
Cinco de mayo
I thought I heard a commentator say something about a vegan diet. Maybe he needed the spiked meat.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
CANELO MAS PUTO!!!!!!!
Conelo showing his true colors as a classless subhuman, who is lucky to have gone this far in boxing as he has. Bivol thrashed him tonight, and Beterbiev would’ve killed him tonight.
This has always been his character. Whenever he loses he makes excuses.
Almost everyone does. I can guarantee if Floyd lost he would’ve had an excuse.
If, but he never did. So, what is your point?
He has no point? Canelo fans like to ride Floyd’s jock when Canelo screws up.
And an expensive one at that.
Why do you Canelo fans ALWAYS talk about Floyd? He’s irrelevant in this matter and he’s retired. We’re talking about PRIME THANOS “UNMATCHED” Canelo hahah who got his ass whipped and now he’s making excuses as to why it happened.
Agreed. This is the 5th time he does so.
Chris your an idiot who knows nothing
Well at least I know how to spell, and it looks like three out of four of other commenters on here agree with me. Nobody agreed with you though:-)
He was Lucky not to fight Beterbiev tonight, otherwise he would have taken to the hospital!
He didn’t lose??? Ahahahah!! Come on, let be honest, and as a warrior admit the defeat, don’t be a ridicolous clown!
Saul Alvarez was beaten by a better man and right after the verdict he think he won. Does this make him a classless subhuman? Mmmm…this has unrequited love written all over
April 25, 2021, Canelo interview qoute before defeating Saunders, ” Losers always make excuses, and always ahead of time. When I fight, I’m ready for any style. If you want to go out there and move, if you want to go out and do whatever you want, I am ready for that,” Canelo told ESPN Deportes.” Just not ready to accept the “L”!
I read another article where canelo accepted the loss so it’s just some dumb bs. Canelos not that great neither is Fury or the Paul brothers. For half a million I’ll fight all 4 within a year , punks
Half a million wouldn’t cover your hospital bills.
Concussion? Post fight he pretty much said he lost. He got whipped 9-3 10-2 Smh
this was when the Mexican media asked him. from what i understand, when he was asked in the ring about his loss, he seemed gracious in defeat. I think a rematch would be bigger business. It also makes a lot of sense, because I think if he just goes back down and beats the guys he has been beating, his mrque value would not be the big generator that it is now. Right now he has to stay at Light Heavy I think to be the star attraction that he has been. If not Bivol, how about fellow Mexican Ramirez. A lot of possibilities.
Several Mexican commentators had him WINNING!
They’re just as corrupt and the WBC.
Is that true? That is crazy. Were they scoring the shots to the gloves and arms? Canelo threw nice looking punches, but he rarely was able to hit Bivol clean. Bivol’s jab was more powerful than most of,thought because Canelo was too wary of Bivol’s punches as if they were hurting him. Also, Canelo looked slow,and exhausted the last few rounds.
Speaking to the WBC, I’m surprised they didn’t invite themselves with their stupid gold belt dedicated to some Mexican tradition.
They did, they were to present the winner with some special belt adorned with Mexican symbols et al, their big lost so it wasn’t presented to Bivol on camera, if Canyellow was the victor, they’d play it for all it’s worth.
That’s incorrect this was for the WBA and not the WBC championship
Nicolas, yes he was. He did say he felt he won but that in boxing you win some and lose some and this time it was his his turn to lose.
YES ! GILBERTO ( ZUDO ) RAMIREZ SHOULD BE THE NEXT MEXICAN OPPONENT FOR DIMTRY BIVOL . THE SAME EQUAL WEIGHT . IT WILL BE A MORE COMPITIV FIGHT OVERALL .
115-113, really 117-111/118-110 and Canelo wants to go for the rematch, so he can add another “L”? Bivol not only has the 3S’s but boxing IQ also. Same result as the first time around, winner Bivol. Skillage/Speedage/Strengthage to keep Canelo in checkage! If only Bivol was 8 weeks out of a hard ass fight maybe things would have been different. Take it back down to 168lbs.
You are 100% right. Alvarez is op small for light heavyweight
I think what’s gonna happen is the same thing that happened to Mosley against winky wright. Shouldn’t go for the rematch or he may be embarrassed even more.
I see. He is like Lopez. He lost clearly. Even tainted judges could not save him this time.
Nope! Canelo lost 9 rounds
117:111 is real score. I have 9:3 (117:111) Bivol win
After 4 rounds each fighter won 2 rounds-So the I would give score 2:2. Then till 9 round Bivol won the rest 4. Canelo won 9th round and lost 10-12 rounds.
Canelos brains must have got rattled even more than I thought. The judges were overly generous to say the least, Like 10-2 Bivol was more realistic.
Sore loser. This is the true essence of Canelo. Whenever he loses, he makes excuses why it happened? He’s making excuses about weight and getting tired. Newsflash Canelo is known to get tired by round 8. We all know this. He also has difficulty fighting master boxers who stick to their game plan.0 Canelo has selected the right opponents post Floyd Mayweather but he has not improved. Bivol used his movement and boxing skills to win and not necessarily his size. Bivol is such a class act and proved me wrong.
A champ wins with grace, and a champ loses with grace. Take the loss like a man. It was a thorough domination.
Canelo always receiving advantages from the judges. Just like when Miguel Cotto, a way much smaller fighter, outboxed him and the decision was given to Canelo. This was almost a shut out and judges made it looked so close like it was competitive at all.
Too much steroids in your bloated body can lead to early suffering and death. The powers that be know this, but ignore it just like in bodybuilding. As such, boxing can no longer be considered a sport, but merely a form of entertainment.
BIVOL NEEDED THE 12TH TO WIN….WOW REALLY
I am beginning to wonder if anything is real
I thought I heard wrong when 115-113 was announced. Bivol apparently needed 12th to secure a win. That was just shocking. What fight were judges watching? Boxing is so crooked, but even the crooked judges couldn’t give the fight to Canelo. Canelo probably didn’t land more than a handful of clean punches. Bivol was just better a better fighter, and the rematch (*if it happens) will be more,decisive for Bivol.
This is not new with judges in a Canelo fight. When Canelo lost to Mayweather,
one judge had the fight even.
This was a stupid mismatch, but seems Canelo thinks he is some kind of superman… remember he called USYK !?!
I am a fan of him, but he need to be more humble.
Beating a washed Kovalev made him delusional.
He remain one of the greatest tho.
Greatest what? I think Canelo has been
marketed exceptionally well. He is a
good fighter but not a great fighter. The people marketing him are A plus. How else can explain beating a Rocky Fielding, Liam Smith, Billy Joe Saunders and moved-up to
arguably number one on the pound for pound list.
Lara, Trout, Jacob, Golovkin and Kovalev
are the best fighters Canelo has fought
outside of Mayweather and he had problems
with all of them. The verdict is still out on
what group Caleb Plant falls into. I think
in the rematch with Bivol, Canelo will lose again and may get stopped. The aura of his invincibility is over. Like Mike Tyson after his knockout lost to Buster Douglas. Fighters
did not fear Iron Mike any longer. They
came at him with a gameplan. Bivol has
given other fighters a gameplan to beat
Canelo.
KARMA for NOT fighting BENAVIDEZ!!! And to think he was talking USYK?! Geez!!!! Even steroids can’t help him with that
One more joining the Teofimo Lopez “Delusional Club”
Great comment! They both should hug each other.
He meant,he won only four rounds
The rest bivol won,and I really think if bivol had pressure him a little bit more he would had ko out canelo
“Canelo: I didn’t lose the fight”
This behavior has greatly reduced my respect for him. I previously thought he was a good sportsman, an hombre, a man.
Mafia Vegas behaved as expected for the crookedest city on earth, except i saw no misbehavior on the part of the ref. He did a good job. Even the usually bottom of the barrel DAZN commentators were fair enough. The judgettes upheld the ha ha honor of the dump tho as they were clearly trying to make the house fighter win. I was surprised that they didn’t have Canelo way ahead on their little scorecards. They tried, though.
And Bivol was forced to have the USSSA’s song sung for him unlike everybody else who can hear their own anthem, in addition to being forbidden to display his country’s flag, again like everyone else. Of course F. Joe’s handlers are trying their level best to start nuclear WW3 with his country, Russia, so I expected even worse.
By the way Russia is patient and never loses. They won’t forget the Moskva.
Fuck Russia garbage ass potatoes eating slum
Look at the Mexican talking:-) Mexico is attached to the richest country on earth and the majority of it is a third world hellhole where people are eating and shitting on the ground. Both Moscow and St. Petersburg are nicer than ANY of North America’s big cities. Fact!
You must be Russian, possibly an “intelligence” actor or a “wannabe.” This is a boxing, not a geopolitical, forum, Comrade Boris.
Piss off don lemon
Somenthing in this fight make pointless the rematch: It wasn’t a close fight.
Bivol’s defense and accuracy on his attack were oustanding and only going to get better if they fight again because there will be an overwhelming difference in the confidence department
Rematch.
Canelo draws money. Bivol draws flies. But it would also be good to get Beterbiev in the mix soon
Canelo was exposed for what he’s been a bum fighter always afraid of fighting black boxers, clown got exposed, the reason he doesn’t fight black fighters, he fears them since mayweather beat his clown ass
Canelo must be punch drunk. At best, Canelo won two rounds. Bivol just out boxed, out punched, and had much better ring generalship. The rematch will be more decisive. Bivol knows Cabell can’t hurt him now.
Seems as if the judges were looking for any excuse to make this fight far closer than it actually was, another sad indictment against judging in this sport. At least they barely got it right but reluctantly.
I watched the fight this morning before I knew the result but stopped the video at the start of round 12 to confirm the result.
As with other viewers, 115-113 is not a true reflection of the contest. This happens a lot in boxing. Scoring reputations should never happen.
Years ago a boxing wag noted that some judges would have scored the Battle of Little Big Horn a 10-8 for General Custer. It’s humorous but accurate.
canelo won the fight when he left the ring as a loser
Bivol’s footwork, speed and defense was the difference
If you want to lose clout in the boxing world.. THIS is how you do it! That was one of the most one sided, big fights I’ve seen in a while. The last thing someone wants to hear is that he thinks he won the fight after he said post fight “no excuses”.
Come on Mr. Avarez this is not true and you know it. Saying these kind of things ain’t good for you and your legacy
Canelo is delunsional.
I’ve taken steroids before like canelo (not as much as him but done a few cycles) and they make you feel like God, but seriously it makes you a very delusional person because you think you’re untouchable. Canelo is on HGH aswell. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he thinks he won that.
What’s HGH?
Human growth hormones
Human growth hormone, one of its main side effects is it makes your bones thicker & stronger,which for boxing purposes would 1) make your skull able to take more punches and 2) make the bones in your arms more dense so heavier punches. I never f*cked with it it though cos it makes your heart grow bigger too which leads to a heart attack later on in life.
Cannelo was stopped in his tracks!!! Bivol was not kavalev who got paid to take a dive! I hope he reconsiders fighting uzik as he stated! I hope he stops at 168 at the most if he doesn’t want his inflated career to end! 113-115 scorecards was insane, never a close fight bivol won all 12 rounds!!!! Canelo had like 2 questionable rounds and that was it.
No worries canelo you won something, you won the most gay trunks & shoes of the year award. Jajajajaja you puto pussay fagget.
You lost, sore loser!!!
Canelo loosing was bound to happen. When you keep testing the waters and jumping up weight when your not the natural fighter at that weight you will eventually get caught and Canelo got caught big time last night against Bivol. Bivol was too big and strong and too disciplined in his craft. Canelo did not look like a natural Light Heavyweight not by a long shot, he didn’t even look like the same fighter we all have seen over the years at Middleweight and Super Middleweight. The extra weight slowed him down and he got tired out mid round which is not like him. His speed was gone, he was a sitting target and Bivol had the perfect game plan and was too strong with his defense. This could have opened up the blueprint against Canelo for other fighters. I don’t think Canelo should have moved up in weight and he should have stayed at his natural weight at Super Middleweight at least there he’s a different fighter. Taking a rematch against Bivol wont change anything but perhaps give him another loss. I think all these so called challenging himself jumping up in weight for legacy actually done him in. He will not conquer hat division. Take your loss Canelo and go back to Super Middleweight. Legacy is now over.
it was bivols night he just outpunched canelo and had a good fight plan
It was an easy fight for Bivol
Not a good look, Canelo.
Bivol boxed your ears off Saul.
Canelo is exhibiting post-fight denial. He needs to watch the fight alone a month from now.
9-3 Bivol.
This one was easy, called it years ago when canelo beat kov.
Im just shocked people didn’t realize Bivols skills would easily defeat a small puncher.
This was no different than Tito vs Bhop.
Smaller puncher coming up in weight against a better skilled, larger champion.
Easy pick then, easy pick this time, and nice payout with the spread!
Canelo is delusional. He was totally out-boxed and humiliated. If there’s a rematch, it’ll only be worse for him.
He lost all but 2-3 rounds in my book. At least he didn’t cry like he did after Mayweather whipped him like a stepchild.
Canelo admitted in earlier interview he lost. He should have left it at that. He took a risk against a highly skilled bigger guy and lost. There’s no shame in that. Hopefully it puts to an end the specious claim he only fights cherry picked opponents.
Canelo should go ahead with the third Golovkin fight. Coming off a loss it might increase fan interest by making him look a bit vulnerable. And Golovkin at this stage is an easier opponent than Bivol. And what can he change in just four months to win? Bivol will be there in ’23-24 if Canelo wants a rematch.
Rematch Bivol next year after he unifies the entire 175 division. Bigger $$.
The crowd was silenced at the theatre where I watched the fight because they saw that while Canelo did land a sole uppercut in a few rounds his other shots were mostly blocked and Bivol escaped with a fresh face. Now the story people are talking about is a bruised arm. Bruising arms to open up other area’s is more of a plan B or C. If the head or midsection were available then Canelo takes you out early or later. “Plan A”..
What more does a a fighter have to do do get a clean clear victory? Contrast this to GGG and those 2 fights discussion. Was this a fight where they “traded”? No argument here. Canelo would throw, mostly get them blocked and Bivol returned with many shots that cleanly landed. He was the ring “general” in between. He dictated the middle of the ring, often had Canelo on the ropes (and it doesn’t matter if one says he was willingly on the ropes) because Bivol decided how many shots he would throw. He didn’t fall for counterpounch rope tactics. And Canelo never KEPT Bivol on the ropes, although he would have liked to but he rarely landed.
I’m looking at punchstats now which always should be used to complement the fight story. Mayweather landed more on Canelo (232) than Bivol (152 did), o.k. But that’s such a high However Canelo didn’t land hardly at all on Bivol (84) at his prime fighting age when he should be at his maximum ability. Vs Mayweather he landed 117.
The story here is Bivol stayed calm, dictated the fight landed cleanly, much more often, won rounds (even if a few were “close”) had the better OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. Canelo did not “take the belt from the champion” which is one cliche you hear a lot. Canelo’s rep and PFP status does not allow a judge to steal a fight from the undefeated reigning champion for the belt at stake.
I guessed if we had a lopsided win as this was (9 to 3 rds, 10 to 2, or even more) then the judges would do what they did try to make it look close. We can just be thankful it wasn’t a draw, or win, for him.
I respect Canelo but this is about the 4th fight that in reality he has LOST. I don’t like when guys get the benefit of the doubt on rounds just because of their status. It’s his fault he doesn’t want to use his jab ( a real scoring jab- not a range finder or fake jab to set up a thudding right) It’s Canelo’s fault he wants to plod around the ring and eat return fire. He thinks he can just turn his head when the 4th of a combo misses to look like he is being the matador. Nope. The judges saw this, and they didn’t want to get eaten alive by the media or mainstream fans so their scores were all the same. They played the “when a round is close-give it to the PFP guy” game.
I agree that all the way up to 168 Canelo could overcome his defensive deficiencies from boxers/counterpunchers. But his power really held up. Now at 175 this isn’t working.
So are we still going to have to hear about his plans to fight at heavyweight?
Best thing he can do is stay at 168 and RULE the division instead of jumping around. Make a bunch of title defenses, and choose the best guys you can for challenge. EIther 168 or 160 fighters will still want the “Canelo lottery”.
But he may still lie to himself that he “won”, because his ego will drive him to think he must avenge the loss. Hopefully he takes time to reflect, make some corrections and use them at 168.
Bivol could pick up more belts with this elevated status and use the MATCHROOM name for large fights outside Canelo. If Canelo accepts a rematch then he should have to travel where BIvol wants to fight.
OK, so Canelo obviously ran to Light Heavyweight to fight Bivol to avoid fighting Benavidez — only to get the exact same ass whoopin’ that Benavidez would have put on him, (minus the knockout).
Now, he claims to want to exercise the rematch clause. For what??? Must be for the money and the built-in sympathy excuse that he moved up to fight out of his weight class to fight a bigger stronger man. News Flash!! That same ass whoopin’ is waiting for you in the re-match red-dog!! Losing to Bivol leaves much of his stardom intact because he has the buit-in weight class excuse and he still gets to keep the lower weight-class belts.
Now if Benavidez whoops that ass, (which he will if Canelo ever stops avoiding him), the shine comes all the way off his protected stardom. Well played, for now Gingerbread-Man. But remember, Benavidez ain’t goin’ nowhere — you can run but you can’t hide!
I meant to say that Mayweather’s standard for punches landed on Canelo is very hard to beat (152) but that Bivol’s defense actually turns out to be better than Mayweather’s in terms of punches Canelo landed. (117 on floyd/84 on Bivol)
So Floyd earns a clearcut win on 2 cards helped by his STATUS (even though it was a clear win) but BIVOL has to accept a close decision because his undefeated titlist 8+ defenses 175 status is still in the shadow of Canelo. All politics, nothing having to with the fight we saw.
If Bivol has a reapeat performance then a few more rounds could go his way in a rematch.
Also remember how all the pundits argued over “which guy Canelo should CHOOSE” at 175″ CHOOSE?, no thought he was choosing safely because Bivol is known for mediocre at best power. I thought Saul would win based on his high level 60 right experience but I knew Bivols ring expertise, and many title defenses at the weight would make it competitive. Saul THOUGHT he would pick up the belt at 175 like he always did at 168, THEN select Beterbiev or other after getting more used to 175. Beterbiev was the hardpunching threat that Saul didn’t want, and really doesn’t want now.
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Mayweather landed more on Canelo (232) than Bivol (152 did), o.k. But that’s such a high However Canelo didn’t land hardly at all on Bivol (84)
He used the GGG formula and beat him easily. I think Canelo thinks arm punches with aggression counts more than good boxing. He said the same against GGG. He should just stay at middleweight and fight David Benevitez
“You gotta beat Canelo for 11 rounds to be able to get a 115-113″- this is the summary thought I read that mirrors pretty much most objective viewers experience watching the fight”
A large part of Canelo’s preparation for this fight was weightlifting. That is the dumbest thing any boxer can do. This isn’t football, where plays last 5 seconds; this is a 12-round fight! Whomever had Canelo lifting weights should be fired!
Canelo, show me your scorecard and then we’ll analyse it together. 😉
OK CANELO LOST AND INSTEAD OF CANELO CONGRATULATING THE NEW CHAMP HE STARTS RIGHT OUT BY WHINING… CANELO IS A GOOD FIGHTER NO QUESTION BUT HAS VERY LITTLE CLASS…. WITH HIS ATTITUDE HE’LL NEVER BE GREAT…
Loser talk, so GGG won the first fight against him and he didnt say anything, he lost this fight by more than the judges scorecards.
Sorry Canelo but you lost this fight. You need to go back down to 168 and dominate . Unfortunately your pride will make you ask for rematch but now Bivol is in your head
You enter like Apollo Creed you lose like Apollo Creed!!!
This guy is dillusional just like teofimo Lopez. Alvarez got whooped!
Canelo, looked tired. He also looked a little chubby. If they do it again, I’ll watch; but if Canelo doesn’t come in better shape, he’s gonna lose again. Also, Bivol won running away. Canelo looked like a punching bag.
He has it backwards. Canelo won 4 or 5 rounds (I had it 8-4 to Bivol).
Canelo you lost this fight like you lost the fights to GGG and your fight to Mayweather. Face it.
Carnelo is Delusional I gave him two rounds one round Bivol took the round off my friends gave him three from the first two rounds he was feeling his strength and knew it was going to b a hard nite but was funny about this they these six bimbos at ring sight u see them playing on the phone adjusting there boobs best Seat in the house and never look up at the fight I was cracking up
Canelo Alvarez ur fucking idiot
As delusional as wilder. My scorecard read 117-111 which I believe more accurately told story how fight progressed. Domitry B contralledcrange and pace with his movement and jab and combinations. Canelo face was tattooed from opening to closing bell turning crimson red, Bivol looked like he wasn’t even in a boxing match. Face untouched he simply put on a masterclass in art of boxing.
He didn’t lose, the other guy won.
It was very clear to me that Bivol exhibited a boxing style that frustrated Canelo. As frequently as Canelo tried to close to deliver devastating power shots, Bivol wasn’t going to stay there to match with him, preferring to land jabs from far away to pile up points. This set up Canelo as a target for a lot of counters. His desperation showed in the later rounds as Bivol’s defense seemed impregnable while he did his work from far away. All in all, a good fight strategically.
Because each judge scored every single round exactly the same as the other two judges, it’s one of those rare times in a championship fight where there is a unanimous verdict on who won every single round, let alone just the fight.
In terms of tactics and effectiveness, Bivol was a clear winner. But points wise it was close. And so in a fight which is won by 7 rounds to 5, where there are no knockdowns, it’s almost guaranteed that the guy who lost will claim that he should have won. Hardly anybody at that level comes out saying that they thought they lost a close fight. Public interest in Canelo along with the small gap in points should be enough to bring about a lucrative rematch.
Greatness also comes with being able to admit a loss.
In fact the one making history in this fight was Bivol not Canelo.
Canelo is such a spectacular fighter. He takes many difficult fights and has an outstanding record. But in this fight he was mastered and controlled by Bivol. And it will luckily be shown in the records
Bivol went out and boxed the last three minutes and took home the last round. What a relief. Otherwise it would have been a draw. Outragous.
So Canelo thinks the score should have been 116 – 112 in his favour. Seriously?! Did he at all see that fight?
I think 117 – 111 in favour of Bivol is correct.
Canelo was too focused on the 6 hot girls who looked at their phones and didn’t watch his fight at ringside instead of throwing punches
Canelo IS HIGH AS A KITE!! Fool give that man credit he beat UR ASS LOL!